Friday, November 30, 2007

Sawhorse 7" (1992)

Ive been meaning to post this since the great comment storm of early summer. Someone gave this up when we were talking about Mike Kirsch bands and many said this was the best Kirsch band. I had not ever heard this band previous to this summer, so admittedly I'm late to the party, and while four songs is short for a party, Sawhorse manage to plug into every great hardcore influence from 1980 to 1992. I mean, a list of influences would read as disparate as teeny bopper at a Slayer concert. I hear Disengage-era Youth Of Today, Four Walls Fallings earlier work, Against the Wall, Judge, Downcast, Swiz, Gorilla Biscuits, Old School, New School, No School, whatever.

And granted, these influnces are not that disparate under the general banner of music as a whole, as they are all hardcore bands, but within the hardcore genre these bands were from different parts of the country and exploring different nuances in the limited hardcore palette.

But seriously, these songs fucking kill. Fo' Real, so whoever said this was the best Kirsch band, I tip my hat to you, and thanks to whoever dropped this in the comments months ago.

If anyone with more knowledge or intimate understanding wants to tackle a description of this album, give it a shot, and I'll post it up as your review...

Either way, don't sleep on this 7" like I did for 15 years. Listen to it here, and pick it up from Ebullition (links to right) as it seems they either have extra copies or they repressed it.


Blogger gabbagabbahey said...

I guess this and the LATS were the two posts in the pipeline? Excellent hardcore. I intended doing some posts of my own today, particularly something on Steady Diet, but instead I seem to have kept coming back here to see what new thing you've posted up! Nice to see you so prolific again all of a sudden...

Maybe it's because I posted it, but I prefer JHW over this. Something about the guitar sound, all sludgy and unreal. But the two are very close, this is far more than a solid Kirsch record.

Thanks most of all for the decent-sized cover art. I spent ages thinking it was a photo of a burning car from whatever miniscule bitmap I could dredge up...

5:04 PM  
Blogger blend77 said...

haha, nice, i cant remember where I found the blow up of the 7"... but I am a stickler for good sized cover art. Its the one thing I really miss when I get something online, is good cover art. Thats why I still by vinyl.

glad you like the stuff... yesh, JHW is also pretty awesome... im a fan of most of his bands.. including Please Inform the Captain...

5:46 PM  
Blogger Jeff J Jawk said...

This is one of my all time favorite 7"s

12:12 AM  
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12:12 AM  
Anonymous michael said...

speaking of please inform the captain... the baader brains lp is out now. has anyone heard it? the demo's pretty good, although terribly recorded. but it definitely still has the please inform... vibe to it.

2:19 AM  
Blogger Jared Dillon said...

funny. i just put up Navio and gave a little lecture about Kirsch on my blog.

love all his projects.

just in case you didn't know Ebullition changed their mail order you have to pay a minimum of 100$ now.

3:08 PM  
Blogger blend77 said...

thats right (about ebullition) i forgot about that...

i should change that info..

Navio is great too...

4:35 PM  
Blogger Damn Those Blood Suckers said...

Does anyone have the hard to find Weston album "Return to Mono". I can't seem to find it anywhere and would love to hear it. Here is some info on that album I found online :

"Left in record label limbo, the band chose Australian-based Rubber Records for their follow-up LP to Matinee. Without any North American distribution, the Return to Mono album was near impossible for most fans to find. Import copies ranged from $30-40, and the band themselves had no copies on the following tours."

4:48 PM  
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8:28 AM  
Blogger David said...

I've heard alot about Mike Kirsch but I've never actually listened to any of the bands he's been involved with. Would this be a good place to start?

2:53 PM  
Blogger gabbagabbahey said...


sorry, that's just my HWM/Fugazi bias coming through...
start with this (Sawhorse), it's as good as any. Or John Henry West on my blog, or Bread and Circuits (I think its on Zen somewhere). They are all noisy, heavy fast hardcore stuff.

Alternatively, try Please Inform The Captain This Is a Hijack. You like hip-hop and stuff, and this has a lot of sampling and so forth. It's pretty different from earlier Kirsch, although it has a lot of hardcore bits to it.

Or, if you're up for some strong emo, look at Jared's Navio Forge post: I kinda rehash this argument in the comments; (sorry if that's what sent you back here in the first place!)

I'm sure these guys can give better advice than me...

3:05 PM  
Blogger David said...

Thanks gabba!

I'll try and give them all a listen especially PITCTIAH as the sound quite good. I'll download this just now and see what I think!

3:55 PM  
Blogger blend77 said...

David, do yourself a favor and try them all, they are all pretty different, except Bread and Circuits and Torches to Rome sound like the same band to me... which is by no means a bad thing... all the rest are fairly different.

Navio Forge is more like DC emo
Sawhorse - well, theres the review, more traditional hardcore
B&C and TTR - more frantic
PITCTIAH - more experimental, but still hardcore
Fuel - more like Fugazi
John Henry West - more violent
Baader Brains - back to the B&C/TTR style... but maybe more frantic...

all the Bread and Circuits is here on Zen, let me know if the link needs a re-up. Same with PITCTIAH, its all here...

5:41 PM  
Anonymous Ben. said...

sorry, lame request

i need the promise ring electric pink ep (or just the "make me a mixtape" track) ... i won the record, but it's at the parents...

help a brother out!

12:48 PM  
Blogger gabbagabbahey said...

citizens of the interweb!

exercise your right to democracy (and Freedom!) and choose your favourite Mike Kirsch band on the poll in my blog:

since there are so many, I had to pair some of them up but hopefully in a fairly logical way... my vote is for Fuel, btw!

4:18 PM  
Blogger blend77 said...

you know who i voted for Gabba... ^_^

fun poll... we need more activities like that..

10:30 AM  
Blogger swizcore said...

I want to reiterate what some others have said.
Sawhorse was my introduction to Mike Kirsch's genious, I agree that all of his bands do sound similar but not only agree that its not a bad thing; I think that it is quite engaging to listen to his bands in order from chronological creation. With the exception of Fuel you can hear gradual progression from each band to the next. Kirsch honing the sound he strives for with each subsequent band. JHW has a STRONG likening to Swiz in my eyes and having a Swiz tattoo you know I find that a positive. I could go on and on but my point is Mike Kirsch is one of three musicians who in my eyes is incapable of creating anything less than incredible.

5:43 PM  

I love this band!
thx man!

greeeeeat blog!
plz visit mu blog

Cheers from Chile

2:08 AM  

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