MITB.LIVE.KSPC.1992
This has been floating around in the ether lately and at first I hesitated because Man is the Bastard has the ability to sometimes be amazing and interesting and other times just come off as as pile of muck. Add to that my aversion to live recordings and this show would have never been enjoyed to the extent it has in the past two weeks. As it were, I decided to at least check it out. It was recorded in 1992 and that tends to be my favorite of the MITB stuff so maybe its pretty good.
Well, the results are in, and its pretty freaking rad. The sound quality leaves something to be desired, but then again so did many of their recordings. After all, sound quality is not the point when it comes to stuff like this and all it takes is one listen to the first song to see that the power is still extremely evident in this recording. As the opening statement says, "we prefer to make it more imaginative and harder" and that is one reason why I would go on record as saying that this is now my preferred choice of Man Is The Bastard material. Aside from the apparent hardness present in these songs you get some illuminating (and often downright funny) descriptions of the songs meanings. These often times are in the form of one voice remaining calm and lucid while another sounds downright militant. This is all fitting for the MITB aesthetic as many fans would already guess.
Like I said, this has been floating around on the nets and some of these songs ended up on the "Uncivilized" 7". If you havent heard it then do yourself a favor and grab this and give it a thorough listen, because as I stated, a lot of these songs are performed awesome and they do come off as "more imaginative and harder" then their recorded counterparts. If you have heard this then the only thing I can offer is that I split up the tracks into their respective parts for easy perusing.
I was looking for some pictures and I couldnt really find anything worth reposting, but I found an interesting interview with Eric Wood. He waxes on about various relations with other bands, different splits from that time, wanting Keith Huckins (from Rorschach) to play guitar for them and general philosophies that most would find interesting. You can find that here on the Housepig Records site. Also, here is a mostly full discography of all the Man Is the Bastard stuff and all related projects.
Here is the tracklist, as it appears in iTunes. ^_^
posted by blend77 at 5:16 PM
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Tim, this is totally off topic, but I received this notification the other day. Apparently, Absolution got back together and are playing a few shows, this one a matinée at ABC No Rio no less AND with Maximum Penalty. God I wish I lived close to NYC....
Lineup:
Absolution
Maximum Penalty
Starkweather
+1 TBA
10/25/2008
3:00 PM (Get there early... no advance tickets)
ABC NO RIO
156 Rivington St.
New York, New York 10002
Cost:$6
yeah! I thought that sounded awesome!
Come up and visit. I'll put you up for the weekend.
Of course I hadnt heard Maximum Penalty before you handed it over, but Absolution and Starkweather?! Hot on the heels of two mixes I made? Hell yeah...
damn, i need to move back to new york.
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CROSSED OUT NO COMMENT MANPIG CAPITALIST CASUALTIES MAN IS THE BASTARD. WEST COAST POWERVIOLENCE. LET"S FUCKING GO!! KICK IT!!
Ha! That song is great on this set. Just the way he screams.. "Hispanic Small Man Power!"
I love the talking in between songs. Usually that stuff sucks, but MITB have a way with words... and funny voices.. ^_^
Phil, you come up too, Ill put you up.
Tim, thanks (really!). You don't have an idea how tempting that is for me, but I don't think it is going to happen. There are a lot of "bad" reasons for that (not enough money - or airmiles for that matter- crazy busy schedule throughout the fall etc.), but also one "good" reason. My parents will come over from Germany around that time... So maybe some other time (I dunno, maybe the YOT or Sheer Terror reunion, something like that).
Thx!
I'm looking 4 this one!
good luck!
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MITB...good post
anyone happen to have that catalyst/brainworms split?
orrrr
ANYTHING by catalyst...
Just flying by to say Hi Blend! Hope everything is okay!
Awesome blog! Those old HxC reviews brought back some great memories!
Would you mind posting the DALETH (my "one man" sludge band) tracks from the Blue Shift split on here? Check it out and let me know what you think! Here is the link:
http://www.mediafire.com/?mtkpwegud6j
Some other relative links:
http://www.myspace.com/dalethmusic (myspace)
http://www.dalethmusic.blogspot.com
(website)
http://www.fordocumentationonly.com (label site)
Thanks in advance!
Joe / Daleth
XXX
blend or tim or whatever your name is, do you listen to any other powerviolence?
you should do a post on the new Young Widows.
I got that brainworms/catalyst split, I'm sure Blend/Tim/whateverhisnameis has it too:P
I will post it up later today if noone beats me to it
Here is the brainworms/catalyst split
http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=39e7f727347ec0b63b0405de8095113578dfa374d1dedb83
I don't know of much else by catalyst...lemme know if there is more to find and I will look.
dude the catalyst's marianas trench album is sick, the cd has all their split tracks as well. the vinyl version is a one sided lp with side two painted to look like an undersea adventure. pretty rad. hey paps, i'd love to have the rest of the brainworms splits on my ipod don't know if you have the time or not, but that would be awesome. sometimes i just wanna hear jays's big date and have to wait until i get home. boo.
tim- did you get your pacage should be there today.
I'll get em up for ya jay..no problem
here is the catalyst album mariana's trench....not my link actually, but works.
http://www.mediafire.com/?0ngmzd2n4qn
thanks a million paps!
Jared, the new Young Widows is actually really good! I was surprised because I kind of thought the last one was aimless. This new sounds so good too. I dont usually notice production skills, but this recording benefits from them.
Jay, My package arrived yesterday! It was awesome! I love it! The 7" looks so cool. And the Raein one looks great too. Loved the zines you used for packing, and the patch and buttons. All in all it made my weekend. So thanks a ton! I guess we'll figure out payment whenever your ready, so keep me posted.
Paps, thanks a ton for the Brainworms split. I have all their splits on 7" but I cant listen to any of them right now as my turntable is busted. I havent even gotten to listen to the Tubers split yet, so if you have that one too, that would be choice.
I am in the market for a new stereo set up, one in which I can rip vinyl and tapes more easily, and generally just listen to my music without that hassle of shitty equipment and speakers.
I got a few other records too. I got the Which Is Worse repress on Rorschach and Funeral Diner / Dead City split and the Underdark.
Good days, good times.
i was going to send you an iconoclast patch, but i just couldn't part with it, so 400 Years it was. glad you liked it all, i sent you a message the other day via myspace, so whenever you check that you'll have my addy and info. by the way , if you haven't checked out give me back before, it's pretty much stylistically/content wise heartattack pt.2. they even have photos of bands in the review section who don't even have a review. you got to love it, plus its continued using the photo work of shawn scalen (sp?) to remind you of the olden days.
dude i can't believe you haven't been able to listen to your tubers split yet. r.o.s. spring cover = awesome
if anyone is interested in the new fucked up lp- http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?mz9t5em5oan
I have the first two splits on vinyl...still haven't heard the tubers yet...would love too, haven't seem to locate it.
mediafire deleted my brainworms/dynamite arrows...I will find it tomorrow.
oh! Dynamite Arrows split! Thats the one I have but havent listened to yet! The Tubers split is in the mail with the Which Is Worse? LP. Neither of which I will be able to listen to until I get a needle.
* note to self, bring the old needle into the city today. replace it.
thanks for the new Fucked Up. I never really listened to them, but with a name like that its hard not to notice them...
hey! a little while back you wrote in a comment that you "Would love to hear what people think of Punk themselves... I would love to hear what someone like Iggy Pop or Lou Reed thinks of punk and then hear what some 14 yr old girl at Hot Topic thinks punk is... and then everyone in between.
I'd love to hear what people in our blog community think of punk.... maybe an idea... Post up a direct a question and post the responses... I bet we could get some pretty great responses. Should I do this?"
as there´ve been many people during the last few weeks that had arguments like real punk isn´t like this your plan came back to my mind and in case you don´t want to do that anymore I thought about perhaps stealing your idea.
I´d be very curious to get the definition of "real punk" and the explanation who defined what "real punk" is and I´d be even more curious on the explanation of who gave this shadowy elite of definers the authority to define...
as I´m really laz...ähem busy I´d prefer if you´d do it. which would also prevent a certain group of people from claiming that my only intention is to continue the "war of words" that took place on mark´s down underground blog and seems to have caused some kind of trauma in some combatants!
real punk is taking it up the ass in jail. hardcore is pornography.
what we do, is secret.
Thanks Jaysus for clearing that up. It's what I thought, too. That's why I always get these strange results when I use Google image search. My wife didn't believe me...
how should I know that? I´m catholic!
do you have experience?
the Russians have a special word for the one who gets fucked and he´s considered to be gay from that point on. those that fuck him aren´t! but they believe that punks are gay too cause of the dyed hair...
been to jail, asshole stayed safe. looked at enough porn in my day to be significantly bored by it. as for the russians, maybe they should read the rules laid out by marilyn manson in his autobiography, according to his rules, if you have ever owned, or listened to the smiths, whether by your own volition or not, you are in fact gay. i think dyed hair is gay too. seriously, what the fuck is rebellious anymore?
See Jay, that by definition is the difference between "jail" and "prison".
Also, I am getting really intrigued by Russian culture. I like to judge a people by how many strange words/concepts they have. But then again I also enjoyed the episode of Law and Order SUV where Ice-T has to explain to his fellow non-African American cops what "on the down-low" is. I wonder he has ever been to prison...or knows Russians
I´ve been inside myself and my asshole also stayed safe! so, now that we know each other and went through all the official stuff so that no one can accuse us of being ill-educated we can switch to the funny part of the evening!
honestly speaking: I couldn´t say if I´ve listened to the Smiths! but logic tells me that Charlie has, or what else could he base his judgement on? according to his rules he´s gay!
what the fuck is rebellious?
tricky question as it gives no information on rebellious against whom or what?
I base all of my judgments on Russia from what i know of Zangief from Street Fighter 2 and Ivan from Rocky IV.
that and they sent a monkey to space first.
and that friends, is what a public education is all about.
way to go papst! i'm not sure how anyone could have possibly missed the smiths or morrissey, but kudos to you sir, you have done the unthinkable.
i remember doing an interview with slim moon from kill rock stars nearly 10 years ago and the interview turned into this intense who's more not punk debate. slim eventually won when he admitted to having every smiths album on the original 10" format they were released on as well as owning all the 7" singles. i was floored, i totally thought i was going to win, but apparently liking David Bowie and T. Rex was pretty common.
Papst! Yes, I think this is something I would still like to do. Just hearing your guys banter is enough to make me want to hear what people will talk about. It's times like this that I wish I had a forum so people could speak in a quicker fashion, but just about every forum I have ever crossed descends into a pissing match.
That is something I dont consider punk and something that I dont care to promote.
I want to make this post good, so give me til next monday. I will post it up then and hopefully get some illuminating answers which I will post the next week.
Maybe throw some music in there too.. ^_^ Thanks for bringing it up again!
i hope no one here is thinking i'm drawing a yellow line in the snow, because when it comes to pissing contests i invariably lose.
damn that shy bladder.
I never cared about it? when I´m not listening to HC I listen to Madonna or Johnny Cash and I admit that I had a phase were I was listening to a lot of Rap and when my girlfriend is cooking we listen to classical music once in a while. it´s like I´ve yet to find a "rock-based" band outside HC that isn´t J.C. and doesn´t bore the hell out of me!
I´m sorry but since I found the video where H. Kissinger, V. Walters, some ex-KGBs and others explain that the landing on the moon was just a hoax done by S. Kubrick on the scenes of 2001 I´d say I consider that "public education"!
send me a link to that, i've got to see that. i have actually lived with two seperate people who believe it was all a hoax. science be damned.
no need to hurry! I hope you get more answers than me as I got not a single one that was more than "you´re an idiot!"
and they call that a discussion and really believe it to be one!
I found it on e-mule and I think I still have it on one of my external HDs. I´ll try to locate it and upload it for you!
I wasn´t sure about what to believe, but why should Kissinger say they fooled the public if it wouldn´t be true? and explanation of the ex-KGBs how they proved that it was a hoax within 4 hours are quite convincing!
slipknot?
I actually think comment sections do a pretty good job of being discussion forums. Maybe because I came directly into Web 2.0 via blogs and blogging, but if people are talking quicker on the net (Jay's quickfire repartee aside) won't that mean they're thinking less?
anyway, looking forward to your 'who's punk, what's the score' post... I've got something similar but a little different coming up myself.
jaysus, I think I found movie! I´ll check if it is what I think and as soon as I manage I´ll upload it for you! give me a e-mail so I can reach you.
hit me up at igyrasputin@hotmail.com, i'll be waiting for some comical news debriefings
there are a few movies that deal with it....Dark Side of the Moon is one of em...pretty good. Also, have a movie called "What Happened on the Moon". I'd be happy to get it to ya Jay, but it's two cd's big. I can rar it up it you are interested, lemme know.
"The Apollo Program Was A Hoax, or so we say. The biggest lie was market economy that blinded us with the glory of prosperity and freedom" (Refused, The Shape of Punk To Come)
For those of you living in the US: Tonight the Mythbusters (Discovery channel) will end all debate once and for all as they apparently will fly to the moon themselves in a self-made replica of the Apollo 11 (or something like it...) to verify whether it was actually possible to send humans to the moon or whether it was all an elaborate hoax that needs to be busted.
Seriously, I have no idea how they want to "verify" either claim, but I thought it was funny when I read the announcement for it today in the newspaper
Funny how I'm always late in finding this stuff! I'm pretty sure this is a set that Drew Gilbert (Floodgate) recorded while we were in high school. He and Chris Jensen did a show called Hard Times and by 92 everyone in town was WAY into MITB. In fact, kids at Claremont High used to walk around intoning the intro to "Eunich" to one another all the time! Henry and Eric both worked at Some Crust Bakery (eulogized on that Spazz record) and several of them lived together at a cool old stone house with pink flamingos in the yard.
I posted up some old photos from around then over at: http://abovethesubtext.blogspot.com/2010/01/more-hardcore-punk-ephemera.html
Somewhere, in a box, there's a tape of Downcast on Hard Times that is really really good. Anyone have any ideas where to find it?
Okay, another stream-of-consciousness connection:
Rufie Barnes, Henry's younger brother, is the bald kid screaming along, up front, with Chain of Strength in the Chrissy Piper book "Unheard Music." He makes guitars like his brother now.
Kenyon is playing with Djam Karet.
Joel is still criminally under-appreciated as a drummer, and Israel Lawrence and Andy Beattie have disappeared into the ether as far as I know.
The treat I really wish I could unearth is the short-lived Bastard Lounge outfit with Abe Snow singing "It's Not Unusual", backed by Kenyon and Connel. It was pretty amazing.
i havent disappeared into the ether...YOUVE disappeared into the ether Marty. i just wasnt living in california for the better part of the last decade.
back in los angeles now though.
Israel,
No offense intended. Glad to know you're well. Haven't seen you since that Bloodlet/MITB/Neurosis show at the Trocadero. Would love to catch up. Shoot me an email at my gmail account: jackaope415 Since you've found this, what was it like touring out east? My friend Bricks (CR) said the CBGB show was one of the very best he'd ever seen.
Others,
Anyone else notice a similarity between Khanate and the first 'Our Earth's Blood' 7"? I don't know that SOMA had any contact with MITB, but there seems to be a cross-pollination of kindred spirits there.
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Up on the hill,
There is a dog,
There is a dog...
You better beware.
Because this dog is....
DAKOTA DOG.
And he awaits...
And he awaits......
All those who DARE!!!!!
Bit By The Dog -Izzy Virus of PCU
You say they give you a sense of pride.
You say they make you Unified.
I'll agree you're more unified than me.
But who wants unified stupidity?!?!
I'd rather be my own man,
Than just one of the masses.
But you prefer conformity,
And hide behind dark glasses.
Dark glasses.
Dark glasses!
Isreal? Abe? Ken? Drew? Those "Dakota Dog" lyrics might have just redeemed 2017 for me!
Pickled Catfish Uterus
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